Wednesday, 22 February 2012

VERY IMPORTANT STUFF OK: MYNYDD Y BETWS NEWS and INFO UPDATE - MATERIAL RECIEVED ALSO COMMENT FROM MYSELF INDICATING SOME DISILLUSIONMENT LEADING TO DOUBT AS IF IT IS WORTH CONTINUING STRUGGLE TO SAVE STRYVELAND?



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2 days ago – Mynydd Y Betws: Sandy Gerrard's preliminary report ... In recent days much has appeared in the press about the stone row on Mynydd Y Betws.

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People could write to THIS MAN  re Pumlumon/ Hyddgen  etc as well as Mynydd Betws.He covers Dyfed, so worth asking him re Ceredigion. Anything of note  in Brechfa, Llanllwni area? Charles Hill <C.Hill@dyfedarchaeology.org.uk> wrote:


Recent paper articles are giving information from one side of the argument only. The facts are these:

1.       This Trust and Cadw recommended refusal of the application both to the Planning Authority and at the subsequent Planning Inquiry. We were concerned about the impact of the development on the scheduled ancient monuments and the wider historic landscape.

2.       The Inspector however granted consent, putting in place a condition to ensure archaeological work is carried out by the applicant.

3.       We at the Dyfed Archaeological Trust and Cadw have been acting as advisors to the planning authority to ensure compliance with this condition.

4.       The stone alignment is a new discovery as a result of grass fires on the mountain. It is over 700m long and the development access roads have taken out about 10m. Here archaeological excavation has taken place, which could provide important information on the stone alignment and this can be used by Cadw in due course to judge whether or not the site merits statutory protection. We await the report on the excavations.

5.       The vast majority of the stone alignment is not affected by the development at all.

6.       We, and other professional archaeologists, have reservations about the prehistoric date and function suggested for this feature as other interpretations can been suggested. However, we have dealt with the stone alignment as if it is a major prehistoric find.

7.       To date the developer has done everything required of them under planning requirements.

8.       Irrespective of our views on this windfarm, or indeed others,  it is permitted development and it is in this context and the attached planning condition that this Trust is using its good offices to protect historic environment interests.

I hope this helps to clarify issues.
Best wishes

 Charles
Charles Hill B.A; M.I.F.A

Senior Planning Archaeologist

Dyfed Archaeological Trust

17/02/12

SENT TO ME A COMMENT ON ABOVE:


Subject: RE: Multi-million pound windfarm set to be scrapped after walker finds 'line of ancient stones'.


This was exciting news below – but I fear it is totally out of date despite being printed today  - we will never stop these vandals* –  as I understand it - the stones are being currently ripped up and dug out for checking and already dismissed. Mynydd Betws is really part and the same geological plateaux as Mynydd y Gwair – the difference is – the ancient Lordships of Gwyr and Dinefwr had a border there on the Cathan River streamwhich is now the County Boundary Mynydd Betws in Dinefwr, Carmarthenshire,  is owned in shares by 32 greedy farmers who bought it off the feudal Lord of The Manor of Cawdor or Dinefwr about 50 yrs ago – whereas Mynydd y Gwair (Gwyr) in Swansea (Glamorgan) is still owned by the feudal Lord – Duke of Beaufort’s family tax evasion trust – “The Somerset Trust” and the farmers are only “commoners”. So Carmarthen County Council and the greedy owner farmers approved Mynydd Betws - whereas the Commoners and Swansea Council refused Mynydd y Gwair – my side of the plateaux. 

Can anyone up date us accurately on the true current situation of Mynydd Betws today? 

My Comment * Possibly not but we must still continue to campaign and show the fight will continue if for no other reason than to expose the 'Greed' behind the treacherouse 'sell out' of our precious landscape. Not least as firing a 'Warning Shot' across the bows of the Duke of Somerset and plans to develope a Windmill Plantation on Mynydd y Gwair. Though having only learnt now from above of the 'Greed' of 32 Farmers and treacherous sell out by Carmarthen Council. Can we obtain names of Councillors who voted for this land grab. Please send info to be and I will blog them in a NAME and SHAME post and suggset no one votes for them in coming May elections.

Got in for Greedy Farmers, just read this book:

www.gwales.com - 9780708310243, Rural Revolt That Failed, The ...

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I must say, that I am somewhat dispirited about the above native 'Great Greed' involved and am not so enthusiastic about continuing the effort to work towards an 'Occupy Mynydd y Betws' and 'Betws Barricade' over weekend of 8 - 10 June 2012. I am further dispirited by fact that there are three Anti - Windmill Groups in this location; Betws Preservation Group, Communities Together and SOCME who are did not continue to protest but allowed the Windmilling of Mynydd y Betws to go on and not fight in any last ditch stand, why not? they do so elsewhere in the World. On top of that this matter should really be the concern of Sir Gar Nationalists as Mynydd y Betws is in Sir Gar, so why am I bothering? Not least to date neither Patriots of Eginiog/Ystrad Tywi are not up for any 'West Awake!', neither are the Nationalists of Swansea and present day Swansea Valley and Gower annually up to remember the Battle of Llwchwr 1136 but are ducking and diving out of the way when it comes to the battle to save 'Stryveland'. Yes, indeed why am I bothering?

YMGYRCH TREFTADAETH CENEDLAETHOL CYMRU.

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YMGYRCH TREFTADAETH CENEDLAETHOL CYMRU. Continuing the Cymric Consciouness Campaigning of Cofiwn in Defence of our ...


This applies to the iniative of a June 'March Into The Mountain' Initiative, thus far there is hardly an enthusiastic response to that either, so why do I bother? There are no Windmills outside my Window and to be honest over the years I have become accustomed to Pylons they are part of my view of the World and anyway with out them we would all be living by Candle Light and Oil Lamps as my Nan many years ago. If the 'March Into The Mountains' is to become a reality then the kick off on 1st June needs to be organised by Patriots in the Ceredigion area or even Cambrian Mountain Society. I cannot do it and whilst up for 'Occupying' Nant yr Arian Centre and a Camp Glyndwr, not so keen if others are not pulling weight. At same time if all the above was to go ahead. I would have to pack in my week in Belleville to attend the 1871 Commemorations, willing to do so but not if I am going to be like the 'Last Man Standing' at the  Rue Ramponeau Barricade in Belleville.. I have proposed two Actions for Mynydd y Betws, one on Dydd Dewi and the other at Easter if these are not carried out and also if by Easter the West has not awoke nor, the Nant yr Arian Action being organised. Then I will be calling it a day and booking my week back in Belleville.

Welsh Remembrancer.

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Blog of Gethin 'Iestyn' Gruffydd subtitled Remembrance, Retrospective and Revisionary, Riot and Rebellion, Revelry and Re-enactment.

Pwysig Iawn


THE TRUSTEES OF THE CAMBRIAN MOUNTAINS  SOCIETY

INVITE YOU TO A DISCUSSION

to be chaired by Mark Williams, MP on Friday 9th March at 7 15 pm at

Ysgol Penweddig, ABERYSTWYTH.

If you can attend do so and bring up the following and see if the CMS can be moved to back up by activelly assisting, if not organising?

Be very useful to have a local group willing and able to help promote and organise Fortress Glyndwr for 1 - 3 June and through the week for those who want to stay longer. This will include groups rotaing protest action at Nant y Arian Forestry Centre for reasons explained in blogs above. March Into The Mountains will kick of with the following programme if possible:

Friday 1 June: Meeting in above area at a suitable location of representatives of local community Anti - Windmill Campaign Groups only. Purpose to forge some National Unity and Solidarity, share News and Info and pool skills etc. Hopefully out of this some kind of National Coordinating Liasion Body can be established. This can be of great local as well as National Campaiging advantage, victory will be more possible on basis of United we stand but devided we fall!

Saturday 2 June: A National Confrence in which specialist speakers will be invited and to which all activists will be invited. Concluding with an evening film show of Anti - Windmill Documentaries.

Sunday 3 June: March from Nant Y Arain to Nant y Moch for Rally, then those who are participating in Fortress Glyndwr disperse to their Gwerin Owain Camps throughout Mynydd Pumlumon. Others return home to participate in their local March Into The Mountains Initiatives through the week with then as many as possible making their way to the 8 - 10 June 'Occupy The Mountain' on Mynydd y Betws and participate in the 'Betws Barricade' and rising up of the Cofiwn Remembrance Cross upon Penlle'r Gaer.

Anyone out there in appropriate locations who can assist with the above, I myself have to be in Merthyr on 3 June for 1831 Commemoration there. Then return for a few days in a Fortress Glyndwr Camp but only for a few days as I will then need to go South to prepare for the 'Struggle On Stryveland'. My only other thought regards what's needed is this, the well informed out there really need to put their heads together and by June deliver in Public the penultimate publication exposing this whole Windmilling of Wales for what it really is, a Pack of Lies!]

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